$486 vs. $279, etc

A diary on the recommended list right now quotes the average Obama contribution accurately at $96.  It then proceeds to argue that this stands in contrast to Clinton donors, who are regular folks giving less money but voluteering time.

Um, what?

I'd always read that Obama was relying more on small donors.  Unfortunately, given the fact that Sen. Clinton has not released her contribution total yet for March, I can only provide partial numbers.  

The first number is for Pennsylvania, where Sen. Clinton's average contribution is $486, compared to the "relatively small" average of $279 for Sen. Obama (quoting the article).

http://www.mcall.com/news/local/all-a1_5 money.6335296mar30,0,4042657,full.story

Sen. Clinton's average donation in February nationwide was $100, and that was down from previous months as the campaign adopted a "smaller but more" strategy as opposed to the "pay attention to the big givers" strategy.  

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/foreign/tra ilmix/feb08/hillaryclintonscampaign.htm

This fact can also be seen in the breakdown of donors by amount they gave, as seen at opensecrets.  

http://opensecrets.org/pres08/donordems. asp?filter=A&sortby=S

Here is the basic breakdown by percentage of dollars raised:

From donations of less than $200:
Obama- 40% of total raised
Clinton 23% of total raised

$2300 to $4600
Obama- 32% of total raised
Clinton- 51% of total raised

$4600
Obama- 6% of total raised
Clinton- 24% of total raised

In summary, 75% of the money Clinton has raised has come from donations of $2300 or more.  Obama, by contrast, has only raised 40% of money that way.  40% of his fundraising has come from donations of less than $200, compared to only 23% of Clinton's fundraising.  

I'm not sure what else to add, except that I don't think anyone here is surprised by this information.  In the future, I hope that any diary discussing an issue doesn't just do research on one candidate and then say "and my candidate doesn't do that."  


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Re: $486 vs. $279, etc (1.50 / 4)

If people feel that $96 is still too large and it lends support to public financing of elections, I can understand that.  But to simply assume that Clinton's average is lower when the opposite is true is a disservice to the level of debate here.  


Saxby Chambliss
by bosdcla14 on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 03:14:11 PM EST

I found it highly ironic (1.50 / 8)

that $96 and Alegre's diary last night tried to push the theme that Obama supporter's are the liberal elite.

Just looking at these numbers refutes that, but I don't think NewHampster or Alegre has the integrity to go back and correct or to post a correction.

Recced.


Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!
by Student Guy on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 03:17:23 PM EST

Re: I found it highly ironic (2.00 / 1)

sorry meant to hit the mojo rating


by lion king on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 03:31:43 PM EST
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Re: $486 vs. $279, etc (1.00 / 1)

"Disservice to the level of debate here"?  Sorry to go off-topic but I'm just pointing out an example of the "level of debate here" that has yet to be deleted by the admins: http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/4/4/13214 2/6050


Oregon Hussein KCG - Hussein means: "good; small handsome one" in Arabic.
by oregonkcg on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 03:18:14 PM EST

One can but try (none / 0)

I'd also note, in the interest of truthtelling, that "$96" is no longer on the rec list.  So that statement is no longer accurate, although it was accurate when I wrote it.  


Saxby Chambliss
by bosdcla14 on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 03:23:16 PM EST

Re: $486 vs. $279, etc (1.50 / 2)

I wonder if MyDD will ever recover?

In February 2009, will they still be doing oppo research, or spreading smears at the newly minted Democratic President?

Because its going to be Obama, no matter how much gnashing of teeth goes on about it on this site.


M Hussein Garvey
by MGarvey on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 03:30:43 PM EST

Re: $486 vs. $279, etc (none / 0)

Oh geez. Stop being so melodramatic.


by apolitik on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 03:53:00 PM EST
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Re: $486 vs. $279, etc (none / 0)

Why are you giving everybody donuts? Just curious.


unapologetic Obama supporter
by dantes on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 05:28:42 PM EST
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I am not sure about the calculations (none / 0)

I mean if I give 400 $ dollars in five gos meaning (say five times spread over two months),
does that count as 5 contributions of 80 $ each in the above calculation or does that count as
1 contribution of 400 $?
by ann0nymous on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 04:08:33 PM EST

Re: I am not sure about the calculations (none / 0)

Think it depends. The $96 is clearly the average per donor - 40,000,000/442,000 approx donors = $90 (He probably raised 42 million plus). However, I think quotes like "40% of donations are under $200" can mean that multiple donations from the same person are under two hundred, but collectively they might be higher, although I'm not sure.

Anyone else know something more solid?


by grass on Fri Apr 04, 2008 at 04:30:36 PM EST
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